This is in response to Tininu's 'Let's call a spade a spade'. Or rather should I say a follow up, with my own 2 cents on the issue. I think GoodNaijaGirl too, has said something in relation to this. Though mine may take a different turn.
This did bring a wave of nostalgia, and though I may seem to rant and rave, I will give anything to re-live my childhood.
I lived as a family of two, i.e my mother and myself even though I have siblings. My siblings were much older and were out of the country. So imagine a middle aged mother in her hitting her 40's having to take care of a child. I guess her mates had stopped worrying about who was going to help their daughter take her lunch to school because she had left it at home or worry about going to the bookshop with list of books for a primary school girl. I think those ones were worrying about the next lace they would wear to that 'owanbe' party, than the baggage that came with having a little child because they either didn't have kids or, the youngest of their kids was already wearing make up and getting ready to write their WAEC.
With this you can imagine how my mother's attention was focused on me. So much so that if I wanted to breathe, I needed to ask of the air was clean enough for me. I never made any decisions by myself. Not because I was being spoilt. Oh hell no, in fact my case was far from it. I've tasted beating of all sorts. Be it from the ruler, to the normal cane, to 'koboko'. Yes I have been down that route. Although I must say that after I reached a certain age, all those beatings stopped, and it was more of slaps. You know those dizziness inducing ones that left the palm imprint on your cheeks for the next hour or two. Yes, my mother had hands of iron, and I don't mean figuratively. If you think I was a stubborn kid, I was in fact far from it. Lets just say I did stupid things that my mother felt could only be managed with thorough lashing.
As I said, I never made decisions for myself. To be honest, I didn't even think there were such things as discretion on my part, as the child. I lived a life where majority of the conversations I could hold with my mother (about me) revolved around things she wanted to hear. School, Arabic school and more school, however as her only companion, she told me everything there was to hear about her day(s), provided they were appropriate for my age to hear.
I couldn't say 'oh I want to go to my friend's house', cos I believed that you didn't go to school to keep friends (not that it was ever uttered as so, but that was the vibe I got). Hence I didn't have friends in the area, though partly because I think I became a snobbish child and I hated the area.
I believed this was also the case with my siblings, well at least two of them, and they only broke free because they now lived away from home, out of the country. But they suffered the 'you have defied me' speech every single time they called home.
I only got to notice this when I actually lived with both one of my siblings and my mother at the same time in the same house. My mother was giving orders on what to do and what not to do, especially in regards to relationships. The guy my sister was seeing/ dating (whatever) came down to jand from yankee and my sister went to see him and spent the night there. Through out the night, my mother was fuming, although I didn't know why, I got to find out the next day when my sister returned and my mother gave her the 'talk' as to why it was indecent for a lady to spend the night with a man.
On the one hand, I think she was only doing her job as a mother, but on the other hand, I think it was a bit late for her to be having that conversation with a woman who was soon to be hitting her thirties.
You could bet that my sister was furious.
She did the same with another sibling, as she complained that it was senseless of them (my sister and her husband) to spend all that money buying a Chrysler jeep, when they could have split the money and bought two smaller cars, where my sister could own hers and the other for her hubby (who takes the train to work in the city). Once again, the sis did'nt find it funny and when she aired her views in her usual soft spoken manner , my mother flared, packed her things and left their house, under the premise that the sis doesn't listen to her anymore, and that all her husband says is the gold she cherishes, rather than my mother's words.
I daresay she failed to realise that her daughter is now a married woman, with her own family to take care of and worry about.
Now that I live away from home i.e at uni and with my sister at the holidays, I have only just begun to assume a role of responsibility, although I still find myself speaking about my intentions with the sis, rather than carrying on with it on my own.
I find that I don't do it because I need advise, but I do it because I need /want/have to be told what to do.
I'm still yet to find out if that is a good thing or a bad thing.
Also, the sis plays the 'you are an adult' card, 'you have the discretion to do as you please', but she never fails however to state how she feels this should be done or the appropriate manner that this should be said or done.
At least, one thing we tend to agree with, without spoken words, is that we don't need to attend this family gathering or visit that family member. I think unlike a lot of us, I am very lucky in that area.
Although, subconsciously, she has adopted that same behaviour as our mother, though she uses it in the subtle way that blends with her character. So sometimes I don't complain because it is not as though I am being ordered. I too subtly treat is as an input, of which I have the discretion to accept or not.
The one time I decided to stand up for myself by refusing to move to the states with the eldest, the family went (and still is) in turmoil because I chose to stay with one sibling over the other. The eldest claiming that by right, as the oldest, she had to be my guardian. I ask why? All the siblings I have are in good position to be my guardian, so why play the age card?.
Fast forward to now. Am I complaining about the way things were? I would like to delude myself and say no. But maybe I am not or once again, I am. I would like to leave that in the grey area
Should I say that they way I was brought up, has had an effect on who I am today. Maybe yes! I meet a few people at uni who tell me I am very mature. I ask, what do you mean by mature? I have either never spoken to you, or if I have it has not been more than 'hi-hello', so how then can you tell? Usually, they cant explain it, or as one of them said, 'when I saw you, I thought you were a postgraduate student'. I didn't know whether I was to take that as a compliment or not.
I find these comments hard to believe, especially as I know I am a person who has grown up to being told what and what not to do.
On the other hand, maybe I did grow up early, maybe I did assume a role of responsibility quite early.
From this, I have noticed that, even though a lot of people preach that they do not accept the things that their parents do and the way do it, they subconsciously adopt this style of bringing up their children, thus, it becomes a cycle.
It is for us, this generation to understand that, children are of different personalities, and you cannot attack the singular in the same manner that you deal with the bunch .
You cannot use the same method with every child. It causes problems.
We should learn to understand our children.
I am not saying the slow child should be given a tamed hand, and the stubborn child a hard hand, or vice versa. I just think every approach should be tailored to the kind of child you have, though taking care for it not to be misconstrued as being partial. It is not easy, but it has to be done.
I can/cannot say this has indeed moulded the person that I am today, maybe it did do me some good, or maybe with my personality, I have not allowed it to do me any harm. I am not saying it was wrong or right, but it could have benefited from some kinds of adjustments.
Note: Once again, I think my points have been misconstrued as something else. I am not arguing that the parents/older ones 'have not been there before'. Obviously they have.
My point is, even though 'they have been there before', doesn't mean they have to force their opinions. That is called ordering people. Which is what a lot of people do not appreciate. If your child is at the age where he/she can make certain decisions, then let him, obviously, his actions will only be put forward with the guidance that the adult/parent provides.
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Ooooh, great post that gave some insights into your comment on my blog on this topic.
I think you're right that even though some of us grow up resenting or disliking the way our parents raised us (at least in some respects), we still end up adopting some of their "ways" with our own children or even just taking on some of their characteristics. Parents are a strong influence.
I think you're right too that parents have to adjust their manner of raising kids to the temperament of the child, but oftentimes parents want to be fair and therefore try to treat each child in exactly the same way, or at least treat children in each sex the same way, which usually (though not always) works.
I can see in my family that my parents treat the boys differently from the girls, but I think that also has to do with how times have changed. I think they would do certain things differently though with all of us if they could.
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Talking 2 your older ones n mum about decisions 2 make is a good thing cos, they have bn wr u r now.
@ d same time, having d wisdom 2 analyze n polish their advice is very important.
Great post and so true, that the way we were raised does impact in some ways and we do somehow use some of the 'methods' our parents used. I'm living with my younger sister who's in her teens, I've actually managed to be 'cool' with her but also though unsaid she still will listen to my advice and not do what she knows it just aint right. I see myself sometimes thinking like my mum, and i laugh at it coz growing up i didnt appreciate it...i guess as they say unless you walk a mile in a man's shoes u dont know...FAB post
You're so right about upbringing tactic to be tailored to each child. I also like the fact that you did not comment on whether it was bad or good. I think today's world concentrate on the binaries of good or bad that they miss rather important factors. Not everything will fall under good or bad and bringing up a chile is clearly one of them.
Me and you are kind of opposites in terms of the roles our parents played in our lives. My parents brought me up to make decisions by myself from the tender age of 10. My first decision ever was to decide whether I wanted to skip primary 6 and go straight to secondary school and they left me entirely to decide and make it happen myself. I thot then that it was harsh but God was with me.
Now I feel so burdened by the number of huge decisions I have to make about my life and others around me and it never occurs to me that other people could help. So I guess everything has its pros and cons. Am glad u've done well for yourself.
GNG- True say, hence why I stated that, parents need to be careful so that their actions will not be misconstrued as being partial.
Oluwadee- You are right. I didnt quite say they hadnt been there before, my point is that they should not enforce their views...ie giving orders. Advice is more appropriate a word.
Shonavixen- Lol, teenagers will always be teenagers. But you sound like you take it quite easy, thats good.
Parakeet- I on the other hand made the mistake of choosing schools on my own when we were writing our common entrance exams, all hell was let loose and I wasnt allowed to attend either of the schools I chose
Hmmm. let me see.. I think my own parents where more of the type to make u feel like you made a descision which they had already made themselves. Okay i don't know if that made sense.
What i mean is they would talk go on and on about what they would like for you, and then ask you to decide, so me now ever one to avoid trouble, would quietly choose whatever it is i know that they want, that way, they are happy and all is well.
Anything other than that, well....
B4 i start to write long story here, maybe i'll just do a post of my own.
Hmm, the subject of parenthood..i think thats a VERY tricky one...i guess most parents go into it with the little they know which is how their own parents brought them up.
May God teach us how to be good parents because it is not easy..and also that our children turn out right at the end of the day cuz that is another issue on its own.
parenthood is tricky,and ultimately every decision is for the child's benefit from the viewpoint of the parent(s)....
it also takes wisdom...a whole trailer load to bring up a child...but sometymes u do have to enforces your views on the child......
but the way i see it....u turned out aiight....
stay u....
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i totally concur wit u..parents need to chill a bit wit regards to dictatin the lives of their kids..i understand that they wanna guide em in the best way possible but guidin n dictatin arent the same thing..
I feel wit u but com2tink of it,our parents are a product of the parentin they had!it takes an open minded person to adjust but all in all they do wat they do bcos they luv us......im kinda lucky,i think i have any kids dream of parentin.....they are fair to me,hear me out,spoil me n used to beat me blue black(lol)if I betray their trust.....
Parents are definitely a different breed. I guess its just that we are always children as far as they are concerned howeveer old you get. I feel you on ur points, and I kow what you mean. Well I have decided to start making decisions on my own, and I can still feel the tightness of doing so. Its like they are loosing me or something of that nature but as an adult I owe it to myself. But not to worry I am sure you are doing welkl for yourself.
i go with oluwadee on this, the ability to polish on their advise is the key here,
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I think u have a good point here..there are several ways of effective parenting and it should be catered to the type of kid...In my case, my parents were not too much in our business but would always have heart to heart talks with us and i think it kinda worked...
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Yeah I agree that we take on the very characteristics we hated or dispised in our folks...I for one used to get upset when my mum answers my dear oh to any amaebo gister that agrees with her view...I recently realised I have been doing it too...
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yes. u cant use same method on kids. My siblings have no either that my father was a disciplinarian. And im beginning to think it has affected them and given them way too much freedom that isn't so good for teenagers growing up in today's world.
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Yeah naija babe...this is a thoughtful one. I, like mizchif, was indirectly told what to do. I will always remember my dad talking about letting children making their own choices and learning from their mistakes. But in actuality, I feel, alot of decisions were made for me. And this really affected me, as I'm trying to cure my being prone to indecision.
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I really agree with you on the comment, "From this, I have noticed that, even though a lot of people preach that they do not accept the things that their parents do and the way do it, they subconsciously adopt this style of bringing up their children, thus, it becomes a cycle."
I think we all should be conscious of this tendency we have.
This write-up is really deep. I like it.
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